Caddo Parish Commissioner Chris Krakman recently found himself at the center of controversy after a lawsuit related to his stance against a sales tax increase at a truck stop in Austin, Texas, was dismissed. Krakman expressed his concerns over alleged illegal immigrant employment at the facility, claims he attributed to local authorities rather than his own assertions. The lawsuit was withdrawn after the plaintiffs sought an apology, which Krakman refused to provide, raising questions about the legal foundation of the claims against him.

During a recent discussion on a local radio show, Krakman explained the events leading up to the lawsuit, emphasizing his opposition to a proposed 2% sales tax hike at the truck stop located in his district. He highlighted that this tax increase was passed without his support and noted it coincided with an ICE raid at the establishment, further complicating the situation. The lawsuit stemmed from his decision to vocalize these concerns, during which he alleged that illegal immigrants were working at the truck stop.

It's worth noting that Krakman did not originate these claims; instead, he reiterated information conveyed by the governor's Office of Homeland Security and vetted by fellow officials. Despite the lawsuit's dismissal, Krakman is left grappling with the potential costs of his legal defense. He reported that his request for support from the Caddo Parish Commission to cover his legal fees was denied, inciting calls for community contributions to his legal fund.

This scenario raises broader implications regarding transparency and governance in Caddo Parish. Krakman believes it’s essential for constituents to realize why the lawsuit was dropped so quickly if the allegations were indeed credible. His experience underscores the intricate landscape of local governance where challenging established practices or policies can lead to significant legal and financial repercussions.

As the situation develops, it becomes increasingly critical for local officials to communicate openly with their constituents. Ensuring transparency can help rebuild trust and foster a stronger community relation in Caddo Parish, ultimately benefiting the public as a whole.

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[Music] [Music] 1017 FM 710 Keel Mike and Mccardi Thomas Avalone in for Aaron on the Jack Spring Electric News Maker Hotline Cattle Parish Commissioner Chris Krakman joining us. Chris, good morning. Thanks for joining us. How are y'all Mike and Thomas? >> Doing well. Good morning, Chris. >> We're doing very well. Thank you, sir. It's got to be a little bit uh a brighter sunshiny day for you. The the judge has dismissed the lawsuit against you. >> Absolutely. But but first and foremost, and and I might be going way too far out on a limb here, and I hope nobody files suit against me, but I want to make something very clear. Thomas is the brother that Lewis sounds like. >> Oh goodness. Wow. That's a hot take. >> So I I made a mistake when I said Lewis. >> You can take that to the court and see how it comes out. But uh I just wanted to make that very clear. >> You know, I I really like Chris Kman. I have to say, >> are you older or is Lewis older? >> Lewis is older. >> Oh, okay. Well, then then that might that might punch a hole in that argument. I mean, I'm not talking about the details. I mean, we can sort that out later, but >> it's not important. I think we got the spirit of your comment and it's it's well appreciated, >> Chris. Well, first of all, congratulations on the decision, but uh tell now tell us how this lawsuit came about and what happened. >> Well, you know, we had a u a 2% sales tax increase at a truck stop in Austin that I was thoroughly against. Mhm. >> And um and and uh in in short terms I I rallied against it and uh and then you know there was an ICE raid at the truck stop and all sorts of other you know alleged things and um I tried to bring some of those things to light and the day after the 2% sales tax was passed without my support you know I came on this show and uh and and tried to make it clear why I was against it. The the questions >> and it's in your district by the way >> that correct and um I I just tried to bring a little bit of clarity to what was going on and for the things I said I was sued. >> Now there were there were allegations that the illegal immigrants were working at the truck stop. Am I remembering that correctly? >> Correct. and and you know that that wasn't and and I don't think a lot of people realize it. You know, everybody acts like I I you know, came out of the woodworks with some kind of, you know, prolific information, but that wasn't anything that I ever said. That actually came from uh the Department of Homeland Security or excuse me, the governor's homeland security, GOEP. That came from the chairman of GOEP and uh GOEP member, state representative Danny McCormack. So, that wasn't anything I ever said. All I ever did was brought forward what they said about it. And so, and which is still a thing, by the way, you know, that's um that's still something that I received. That's still a letter that all of us commissioners saw and is on the record >> about about the illegal immigrants. >> That's correct. >> Okay. So the the lawsuit was filed by u the owners of the truck stop. Correct. >> Right. Tre the TA truck stop at and in in Austin. And so um how did you hear about the judge? Were you there >> when the judge made the the decision? >> No, I I wasn't. Um it it it was something that had been being talked about since uh late last week uh about the plaintiff's uh dropping the case and uh whether or not I would accept. I I I think initially uh I think a settlement was sought, you know, for for me to give an apology and I think anybody that that knows me for more than two days knows that that's never going to happen. and um until eventually, you know, the the plaintiffs uh they elected to drop the case and which I'm very grateful for. Uh however, I I think there's a lot of constituents that would like to have known how this going to end. Uh but my pocketbook wasn't very excited about it. >> Now, Chris, I I I do have a question. Um with respect to that, an important component of this has been of course your legal fees. Uh I my understanding is is the a decision was made by the the commission not to uh to cover those fees on your behalf. There was some notion that when those comments were made you were working outside your role as a as a cat commissioner is is and and you were you know had to raise those funds privately. Is that um still an open issue with respect to now that the case has been dismissed as far as you being able to get some recompense for for those for for the money that you had to pay in your defense? >> Yeah, it is. And I and I'm still asking for relief by the Parish Commission. Uh unfortunately, I I was denied uh merely immediately for for my attorney's fees. Uh which is unfortunate. Uh, however, you know, I I've been asking for donations to my legal fund uh to the crack pack, which I I I'm not a member of, but that that's who's taken care of my legal fees and and thus far it it's worked out pretty well. the majority of the fees have been covered and and it's one of those deals where and I'm going be completely honest with you guys is you know do I really want the taxpayers to pay for a legal issue that their commission didn't ask for that their commissioner didn't ask for? >> Sure. And so it kind of it kind of puts me in a tight spot even though you know the the seven Democrats on the commission are having their legal fees completely funded by your tax dollars. Although the attorney general has recommended we not pay for their legal fees. So it kind of puts me in a tight spot and I really hate to ask legal to even think about spending our tax dollars in that manner and so I kind of go back and forth on it to be honest. So, so you know, for now, I'm still asking for donations to wrap this thing up uh on what's on what's owed. And listen, Steve Delay and uh Harvest and Medlock and and New Orleans, they did a beautiful job on this case because any other case that I've seen that looks anything similar to this drags out for years. >> Right. Well, good news that uh that this has been resolved and uh we appreciate you jumping on with us, Greek. Hope uh Chris, I hope you have a a great weekend. Now, >> if I could I I if I could, I just want to throw this out there for for my constituents and citizens just in general abroad. >> Is think about this. This case lasted a matter of months. It lasted five to six months, however long. Uh I I'm not going to say anything, but I do want constituents and citizens of Kado Parish to ask themselves why would they drop this case? so quickly. If I was so guilty and I was so frivolous with my comments, why would they drop this case so quickly? You do the digging and I'll just be happy that it's gone. >> All right, Chris. Thank you. Have a good weekend. >> Thank you, Chris. >> Thank y'all. Y'all, too. >> All right. 1017 FM 710. Back with more of Mike and McCarti on 1017 FM and 710 Keel. [Music] Man, I'm almost glad it's Monday to get back and relax a little bit. What a You had a hectic weekend, too, huh? >> What a weekend. Wow. >> Geez. >> Had uh we had a fundraiser on sat Saturday. Like I I I'm I'm I'm lost. I'm It's all muddled. >> It all runs together now. >> It was it on Saturday for the Humane Society of Northwest Louisiana. And the the great folks at Key Mexico just couldn't have been more gracious. They originally had set up the fundraiser months ago. It's one of the biggest one. It's called Black Dog October. >> Oh, yeah. >> And they focus on Yeah. I talked about it last week. Yeah. >> Uh focus on on adopting black dogs. Just as sweet as any other dogs. >> Yeah. >> But um of course, we originally scheduled it at Maryland's place. >> Yeah. >> Bos was always real friendly and and helpful with the Humane Society, >> right? >> But of course, he sold >> Yeah. It's it hasn't been open for a couple of weeks at >> Right. So, they they've temporarily closed and they're going to they're going to do some remodeling and some cleaning and some uh revamping there at Maryland's place. So, we had to kind of reboot at the last minute and Key Mexico, the owners there, Rodrigo and all of his staff and crew just fantastic. And so, we were able to set up there. Uh and then it stormed all night. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Storm came in during the afternoon and >> it was pretty rough there for a little while. >> Yeah. But uh so uh I So we had that we What else was Saturday? Um I don't I don't know. What about you? I I'm trying to think what else. I had so much going on. >> I I I I gave my passes up to my friend and his fiance for prize fest. Uh I I made myself very busy over the weekend. Okay. just uh thrifting and following leads on on my my collections. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There you go. >> Grabbed up a few records and uh about 40 tapes. >> You've got you've gone you've gone back to VCR. >> Yeah, I've uh >> That's so crazy. >> I'm a I'm a VHS guy. >> I got a got a lot of good 90s blockbusters this weekend. >> It's fantastic. >> Well, I talked to uh talked to Aaron over the weekend. Yes, >> she's doing great. >> Yeah, >> all reports are good. >> Uh she's she does have some recovery time. So, but but she's she's moving around and >> fantastic to hear it. >> Yes. >> Oh, yeah. She's she's she'll be back in here ordering us around in no time, I'm sure. >> Well, and she is going to be working uh probably probably starting later this week from home. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, so she's, uh, everything's everything's well. Thanks. Thanks for those who have, uh, who's been asking. Yes, >> she's doing very well. Oh, and I helped my sister move on Saturday. On Saturday, too. Yeah. >> When you have a truck and a trailer. >> Yeah. You see, I I got rid of my truck and I haven't been asked once to help anybody move. It used to be a monthly thing. >> I've got the Humane Society trailer connected right now to my truck. Lord. Well, I had hooked it up and and the well, the way the setup is, it's really difficult to get connected because they've got it in a in a fenced in area and you and you have to kind of hop a cur. It's just very It's very difficult. >> Wow. >> And I and I knocked it off the little pl they have boards propped up on it and it tore the pigtail off. >> Oh no. Oh no. >> Yeah. >> Good lord. >> So now I've got to take it and get it rewired. get a new pigtail put on. Not a big deal. It's It's not a major thing, but it's pain in the butt, right? You know, one of those. >> Got to deal with it. >> Lewis R. Avalone in for Aaron. And like I say, she'll be out this week and uh but she's doing well. We'll keep you posted. Mike and Mccardi 1017 FM 710 Keel and on that free Keel app. >> Hi, I'm Sher Harris, owner of Life Source Water. Your tap water isn't as clean as you think. City water is full of contaminants, including chlorine, that cities use to treat it. At LifeSource, we believe your water should support your family's health. Our whole house system delivers filtered water from every tap, even your showers. For over 40 years, we've proudly built every system right here in the USA. Call our factory today at 18009 or visit lifesourcewwater.com. >> Warranty limitations apply. Back to the show with Mike and McCarti on 1017 FM and 710 Keel [Music] 1017 FM 710 Ke Mccardi of course Aaron out uh Lewis R Avalon in studio Lewis good morning. Hey, good morning. >> Thank you for for I know you're giving up time and sleep to to join me and I it's all good deeply appreciate it. >> It's a it's a privilege to be here with you and Ruben and all of the listeners. >> Now, I may sound like someone >> that you have heard before on the radio. Um I get that a lot actually. >> But if you're older, we're talking about Thomas, your brother. Yes. who who stepped in last week a couple of days with me. Um, if you're older then >> he sounds like you. >> No, no, no. >> Chris was trying to say you sound like him. >> Oh, that that he was a hoot. Uh, in terms of uh I got a couple of folks who texted me and said, "No, you know, you sound a lot like Thomas." >> That's funny. Uh, later this morning, we've got we've actually we've got Richard Llewelling from the Weather Channel going to be joining us just after the break. Yes. >> And and then after the 7:00 news, Daniel Ers Palmer joining us. Looking forward to talking with him. Some really exciting economic development news for Louisiana. I I our biggest we need to get out of our own way >> in in Louisiana. >> Of course, >> Shreport too uh specifically and and our self-perception needs to change. But I want to talk to you also coming up later this morning. this no kings rally that the sheriff apparently decided to attend and and then this apparent sniper nest. >> Oh, absolutely. >> That they foundation attempt on the president. Certainly. >> That's that's my fear right now. That's my biggest fear is our president's safety. Well, he's using the he's using the short steps now out of Air Force One >> for a different reason than Joe Biden had to use them >> precisely just to keep his keep him as low to the ground as possible. >> Lewis R. Avalone in for Aaron and we'll talk with Richard Llewelling from the Weather Channel right after the break. 1017 FM 710 Keel Mike and McCarti. More breaking news and trending talk with Mike and McCarti on 1017 FM and 710 Keel [Music] on the Jack Spring Electric Newsmaker hotline. Joining us, Weather Channel meteorologist Richard Llewelling. Richard, good morning. >> Good morning. How are you? >> Well, we're doing well. Lewis is in for Aaron. We finally are seeing a little bit of fall weather. >> About time, isn't it? >> It's about time. Now, I'm not complaining about the rain because we haven't had rain for weeks. We got we got a huge storm came in Saturday. >> Yeah. And we've got another one coming in tonight. in fact that we've got a system that's back out over parts of uh northern Colorado, working on up into parts of Nebraska and on stretching on up into the Dakotas. And that system is going to come in later tonight. Will probably bring us a little bit of light shower activity coming in early tomorrow morning. Uh and then we're going to get another surge of cool air that will be coming in as we move into the latter half of the week. And basically just going to kind of reinforce the nice fall weather that we'll see in the middle of latter half of the week. We'll see temperatures uh falling into the low 80s for highs and overnight lows uh going to be in the 50s. But this morning it's pretty chilly out there. We've got 50 here in 3 right now. A lot of 40s showing up in some of the outlying areas this morning. So, you know, it's it's definitely a day to dig out the light jacket, but you know, we'll get a nice recovery today as that southerntherly winds out in advance of that next system going to help push those temperatures up into the 80s later today. So, you're saying there's no chance of winter precipitation this week, uh, despite the falling temperatures and the moisture moving in. >> Yeah. Uh, don't dig out the snow boots just yet. Yeah, it's going to be uh it's going to be pretty warm here this week, especially during the day. Uh, and tonight, you know, it's really not going to be as chilly as it's going to be this morning. You know, we, you know, we got these day uh starting off the day in the 40s and 50s. you know, with the clouds advancing in tonight with this next system. Lows are only expected to fall into the mid60s tonight and then we'll be in the 80s again tomorrow, around 80° before the temperatures uh start to fall off again uh on Wednesday morning before we go back down into the 40s again. So, you know, um this is kind of a, you know, what we would normally get in the fall. you know, this is kind of what we kind of would expect, >> but you know, nothing really, you know, screaming anything out of the ordinary there. There is better news in on the rainfront, though. Looks like as we approach the weekend, uh, we are going to see another good chance of showers and storms coming into the forecast as we head into Friday night and Saturday. Uh, and in fact, with the next system coming in, we may get an inch of rain out of this next system coming in. Uh so you know Friday night into Saturday kind of looks to be a wash and maybe some lingering showers into Sunday and um you know isn't the Louisiana State Fair something like that getting ready to get started here >> of course >> of course and some you know and uh I think it was Aaron that said that uh you know we kind of get that uh chance for storms around the fair time and you know I think that's what's going to happen again. We are seeing the indications that we may see some decent storms as we get ready to go into the day. >> That's what it it I don't know is it just the time of year that they're they're kind of jinxed with cuz it gets they start October 30th is when the fair opens. >> Is it just this time of year? Because it does it seems like it rains for a week every every year during the fair. >> Yeah. And you know it usually this has a lot to do with the fact that you know much of our part of the world especially east Texas and northern Louisiana Arkansas you know we're going into that seasonal change where we're starting to see you know some of these fronts that are dropping down out of Canada get further down and the death is starting to play an influence on our weather. So, you know, it's kind of those heels that we start to feel the influences of, you know, stuff that's further north is dropping southward and we kind of get into that battle zone situation where we're dealing with showers and storms and that's and that and and that is 100% true. This is normally the time of the year when we start to see those systems start to come in and you know that will bring us those better opportunities for rain. Unfortunately, it just happens to coincide with fair. Halloween falls on a Friday night this year, which just kind of works out perfectly. And it looks like we're in for some beautiful Halloween weather, even dipping into the 40s. >> Yeah, it's definitely looking like it's going to be, you know, the look and feel of Halloween and the architect for sure. You know, it looks like we may see some highs as we get on out in the longer range. We're seeing some indications that we may see some daytime highs in the 60s. Overnight lows uh falling into the 40s. So, you know, this that that's perfect trick-or-treating weather. And I think that that's what we're going to see here as we get on out toward the end of next week. >> Somebody said if there's a lot of acorns on the ground, which we have right now, it's going to be a really cold winter. Are we looking at a really cold winter for Shreport Boer? indications are we're not um because we're going into a leninia right now and that usually means that you know areas you know across Texas through the Gulf Coast and stretching on up into parts of the southeast are going to be looking at a warmer than average winter and that's what Noah has indicated in their you know winter forecast that came out last week that temperatures in the December January February time frame are actually going to be warmer than average for us here in architects. It looks like the battle zone though for winter weather is going to be Great Lakes, Ohio Valley into the Northeast, you know, where the better opportunities for winter weather is going to be. But, you know, there's always that chance, you know, that we get a system that works, you know, down toward the Architects, you know, that brings us those chances for some winter weather concerns. And I don't think this winter is going to be any different than any other winter. So, best advice, stay tuned. We'll be playing, we'll be watching the trends of the forecast as we get further along. If you don't like the weather in Louisiana, just hang on. >> That's exactly right. >> Richard Llewelling with the weather channel. Thank you so much, Richard. Have a good morning. >> Thank you. You too. >> Daniel Ers Palmer going to be joining us after the news. Top of the hour. Lewis R. Avalone in for Aaron. 1017 FM 710 Kio. Mike McCarti. >> Stories of the day with Mike and Mccardi on 1017 FM and 710 KO. [Music] Lewis R. Avalone in for Aaron. Update if you missed it earlier this morning. Ruben, you heard from Aaron also. We heard we got a report. She's staying with a friend right now. Uh, but everything's good. She had a procedure la middle of last week and everything went well. >> That is great news. >> Great news. >> Yes. All reports are look really good. She's uh she's already up and around and >> she's not real hungry, she says, right now, but she's got food. People are lined up to take care of her. Well, we have such a fantastic medical community here in Shreport and Bojer City. Some of the most talented doctors and medical professionals. >> Um, and some of the most innovative, you know, stateofthe-art equipment. It's amazing. It truly is amazing. There are some amazing professionals here in Shreport area. So, you know, I'm I'm glad that she's doing well, but it doesn't surprise me. >> Right. So, >> but we're very grateful. Very grateful and certainly thankful to God. >> Positive reports. So, just uh just to give you an update on that. How about your weekend? Everything >> prophesic. >> Absolutely. Everything uh is going well. Uh we are uh hoping to have uh the governor of Louisiana on our on our show possibly next week. >> Uh hopefully in studio. Um of course uh speaking of American Ground Radio heard here nightly on KE from 5 to 7 p.m. Shameless plug. >> You and Steven Parr >> air quotes. Yeah. Steven Parr and myself host a two-hour show. And if you haven't joined us uh before in the evenings, maybe you know it's not >> it's not the time that you necessarily might be listening to radio. Uh we certainly welcome you each and every evening. >> I certainly do and I listen on the app too when I'm walking the dogs. So >> and and sometimes you text and I'm always grateful to hear your thoughts. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. As you roll your eyes. >> No. know, you know, some of the texts that we get and just like on your show here in the morning. >> Sure. >> The listeners are so much more insightful and smart uh than smarter than I am. Now, Stephen probably won't admit anyone's smarter than him. No, I'm just kidding. Just kidding, Stephen, if you're listening. Uh but nevertheless, uh our our listeners, they're so much more insightful. Well, it's always good to get another perspective and and I have friends that will tell me, "Oh, I were listening and I wanted to call you or I wanted to text you and I but I didn't want to bother you." And I'm like, "Dude, text." >> Absolutely. >> Text, let me know. Let me know what's going on. Let me know if I'm wrong. >> No, you're wrong. You know, >> and we encourage people to call. You all do as well. You all have a great dialogue with your listeners >> because you guys do it live also. >> Uh we we certainly do. And you know, I tell people all the time, you know, especially my children, if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room. You know what I'm saying? >> I'm never in the wrong room. >> You know what I'm saying? I'm never in the wrong room. >> I'm always in the right room. I promise you. >> But that's the that's the attitude that we must have at every age. You know, there's some folks who say, "Well, I'm just setting my ways." >> Yeah. >> Well, you shouldn't be, >> right? Yeah. >> Get out of that room. You're not helping yourself. Some great economic news. Uh we've got Daniel Ers Palmer going to be joining us coming up after the break. Micah Mccardi Lewis R. Avalon in for Aaron 1017 FM710key.com [Music] [Music] 1017 FM 710 Keel Mike and Mccardi Aaron out. Lewis R. Avalone is in studio for Aaron. And on the Jack Spring Electric News Maker hotline from the Pelican Institute, Daniel Urs Bomber joining us. Daniel, good morning. >> Hey, good morning guys. Great to be with you. >> Thank you. Great to have you with us. Uh you you had a recent story on the opening of Bies here in Louisiana. Of course, we know there's one coming in South Louisiana and one up here in North Louisiana in Rustin. And as exciting as that is for Rustin, Louisiana, and we know it's going to to bring we've seen what it's done over in Terrell, Texas, the the entire the entire area has just exploded economically. But I love what you said. It's not just about Rustin's economy, but it shows that Louisiana and the state economy is moving in the right direction. >> Yeah. You know, the the legislature and the governor have been hard at work trying to address some of those major issues that have long kept companies like BIES despite, as I'm sure you know, its its roots right here in Louisiana in Cahula Parish. Um, but uh >> a lot of people might not realize that. >> Yeah, that's right. I mean, Louisiana really should be the home of of Bies. Um, of course, Texas has claimed that mantle, but you know, we'll get our Beaver Nuggets nuggets soon and and maybe we'll uh we'll change that history. >> Yeah. The the founders, he says, uh his grandparents had a small town general store, which kind of was the blueprint for Bies in Kahula Parish. >> That's exactly right. Right in Catahula. And uh excuse me and and of course uh if you look at we compare ourselves to Texas all the time of course but you know if you look at income tax at zero in Texas um you know business climate growing uh they've addressed lawsuit abuse though they have more work to do there. Not to suggest Texas is perfect. In fact, if Louisiana got our our policies right, uh there's there's no reason we shouldn't be not only competitive with Texas, but frankly even more prosperous and full of opportunity than the state of Texas. >> No, absolutely. Of course, last fall, uh Louisiana lawmakers made a change to the state tax policy, and in the end, lawmakers placed a flat 3% income tax on all households regardless of income. What are the chances that this legislature will do away with that 3% and bring the state income tax down to zero? >> Well, I I'm optimistic about it. Of course, what it's going to take is ensuring that they hear from their constituents, your listeners, you, me, everybody else, that that is a high priority and something that they that we want. Uh, but I can tell you talking with lawmakers, this is certainly something on their agenda. We've put forward at the Pelican Institute, a few different ideas about how you might get there. Uh, but at the end of the day, if we're going if we have any hope of being competitive with our neighboring states, with the South, with the rest of the world, phasing out that income tax has to be the highest priority on the list. >> Yeah. No, absolutely. And and Daniel, you say that that we, you know, the people need to let our our representatives know >> this is how we feel about the whole state income tax issue, but do they want it? You you say you have spoken with legislators about it. This is a priority. I mean, it's one thing for the people to say, "Yes, we want this." But do the legislators want it. Do they believe it that this is good policy? this is good for the future uh economic development of Louisiana. >> You know, I don't know that I'd say the entire legislature is there, but uh but I will tell you that um individuals from across the state, especially these more recently elected men and women, uh the last couple of election cycles, there's a lot of energy toward big uh transformational changes like ending the income tax. I'll tell you the biggest thing that stands in the way is this fear and we've tried to help quell this that you know somehow eliminating the income tax means we're going to have to slash government or >> you know make some kind of draconian cuts. The truth of the matter is if we had just slowed down the growth of spending, the growth not even touch uh back in 2015 or 2016, we would have eliminated or become or come very darn close to it the income tax already today. So what this requires moving forward is just to pull the reinss back to make sure government doesn't grow faster than the rest of the state. And if we can do that, we can eliminate this income tax. Our our suggestions show in 8 to 10 years without really any major changes and if you wanted to to actually go in and doge the state, find deficiencies, you could do it faster than that. talking with Daniel Ers Palmer from the Pelican Institute. Daniel, and and I know you say slow the growth, but you you said that the Pelican Institute you had two or three options for the state to consider to move toward that zero uh zero income tax. Is there anything you can share with us on on your on your thoughts? >> Absolutely. Our our proposal uh the >> because that money's got to come from someplace. Well, it does. However, consider that the state budget has grown by 80% over the last decade. >> Yes. >> Um, so the the big challenge here is not a revenue problem in terms of getting uh getting to that zero income tax. The challenge is a spending problem. And of course, it's complicated. And we, you know, some of those things uh were attempted to be addressed in uh in amendment two that of course failed uh this spring. and some of those will be back on the ballot next spring in April um for voters to take individual pieces of of what was in that amendment. But there's more to do. You know, our our proposal says first you got to put a meaningful spending limit in place that actually says we cannot grow faster than inflation and population. So if the population is growing and there's inflation, obviously that means there are more taxpayers, right? ideally uh and uh I and we can sustain that. But otherwise uh really have a meaningful cap and then use the surplus collections of taxes over that cap to buy down to phase out that income tax rate over time. Um by the way, you can do this without uh sacrificing meaningful spending that needs to be done on roads and bridges to improve Louisiana's infrastructure. It's one of these things that sounds too good to be true, but you really get into the data and the math and it's really not that hard. It's absolutely doable. But it does take some discipline and restraint from the legislature to actually say we're not going to continue to just spend and spend and spend. >> Well, hopefully it'll be a little bit better with the Republicans being in charge. >> Well, you would think so. Yeah, that's why I'm saying hopefully, >> right? >> You know, look, it's it this is a a bipartisan problem whether it's here in Louisiana or >> sure >> uh you know, at the federal government, it is the incentive and structure of government to continue to grow and grow and grow >> because every representative has their own pet projects in their districts that they want funded. >> That's right. And every lobbyist they hear from that walks in the door, you know, it's funny. I I'll walk in and and regularly when I talk to a lawmaker, they say, "Oh, thank goodness you're here. You're not asking me to spend any more money, >> right?" >> Uh, you know, this is uh we I consider myself, you know, somewhat of a a lobbyist for the people, right, for taxpayers. >> Absolutely. >> Um, >> you know, but but that's that's what they have to hear is listen, we know this is a state challenge. We've got to get the state more competitive, which means saying, you know, we're going to understand that that these these pork bell projects, pet projects, and uh, you know, continuing to to just spend more of our taxpayer money isn't the pathway to get there. Uh just like you and I and and the rest of of your listeners have to have a budget and tighten the belt sometimes that are in our household budget or small business budget. Uh the government needs to be doing the same uh and and more because they are stewards of our money. Um and and sometimes I think it's easy easy to forget that. >> Daniel Ersh Palmer with the Pelican Institute. We got to take a quick break. Can you hold with us Daniel through the break? >> Sure I'd love to. >> We'll be right back. Mike and McCarti, Louiswis Avalone in for Aaron 1017 FM710key.com. >> From Mike and McCarti on 1017 FM and 710 Keel >> Daniel Bomber with the Pelican Institute on the Jack Spring Electric Newsmaker hotline. Lewis Abalone in for Aaron Micah Mccardi. Daniel, we got some good news. Like at the end of last year, out migration actually changed directions a little bit for the state. We didn't lose more people than we brought in. >> Amazing. >> I know it. It really is. I think our worst problem in not only in Louisiana or or in Shreport, but in Louisiana, our worst problem is our own self-perception. It's it's we've been so used to being on the, you know, number 50 or number 49 in in education or income or there's but those those metrics are actually turning around. you know, they are and and it's such good news and and I I just hope it it shows the people, the lawmakers, everyone that, you know, when you start to move in the right direction, we've got a lot of work to do, but >> sure, >> uh just just heading the right direction changes everything. It changes the perception of potential investors and families who may want to move here, businesses who may want uh to move here or locate a new new facility, whether it's Meta or Bies or uh or ship builders down south. You know, it's um they're fix the drivers that make those decisions. Taxes, education, uh sort of continuity and stability of government can solve those things. we actually get on the list and turn things around. You I know you know this, the the last time we grew faster than the rest of the country was 1920. And uh you know there's there's just no question we ought to be the economic and opportunity powerhouse uh of the southeast between energy and timber, land, water, all all the natural resources, the rivers, uh interstate highways, railroads, all those things say Louisiana ought to be the nexus of opportunity in the country. And you know, the the changes that we're starting to make, we're getting there. And and if we keep our foot on the gas pedal, you know, we're going to see our kids and grandkids come home and fewer of them leave in the first place and uh and and really create a Louisiana that that's the state. It should be a land of opportunity. >> Yeah. And initially, of course, when companies are looking to invest in Louisiana, initially they look at New Orleans. I mean, let's just be very frank. they because a lot of folks think of New Orleans first when they think of Louisiana and then of course they see the richness that is the rest of the state. But nevertheless, Helena Moreno is the new mayor of New Orleans. How do you feel that the new mayor of New Orleans is going to affect our economic development or the attractiveness of investment in Louisiana uh because of her election? Yeah, you know, you're exactly right. New Orleans, for for better or for worse, is a a major driver of of a lot. >> It's a barometer of the state. It >> it is. It absolutely is. And bless my heart, I'm a resident of Orleans Parish. Um but uh you know, I I think there is there's a fair amount of optimism. Um you know, New Orleans uh as a >> I mean, it couldn't be worse. that well that has been sort of my answer to everybody is gosh it's uh it's hard to imagine worse. Um you know I I think uh the mayor elect is is competent. She's putting together a good transition team. Look the the the building blocks are there and the road map is there. You got to continue to to keep get a handle on crime. You've got to fix the roads and make sure the street lights work um and and handle drainage uh and and flooding measures. If you do those things, the rest of it all sort of falls in place. Not that there isn't work to do, but uh we need a mayor in New Orleans that focuses on the basics, that makes it a welcoming and friendly place for people to come to, which they they do by the millions, tens of millions. Um, and uh, you know, I'm I'm mildly optimistic. You know, the history of New Orleans is uh, messing things up if they have the opportunity. So, let's see if we can uh, reverse that legacy and and really make make the city a place to shine again. >> Do you think the new mayor will reverse direction in some instances or do you think it's just going to be a continuation of Latoya Cantrell's administration? >> No, I I definitely think there will be some reversal in course. you know, Helena has been the the leading adversary of of Mayor Cantrell during her time on the the council. Um, you know, the challenge of course is uh and it's I think the same trap that that Latoya Cantrell fell into, which is the national progressive infrastructure is uh very persuasive and uh telling particularly mayors of of cities like New Orleans, you could be a star if you just embrace all these these progressive policies. and and frankly at a municipal level as we know obviously you know we we want someone to be as free market as possible but just doing the basics well the the management of municipal government can go a long way even even if they accept that siren's call of of of fame >> and we've got to turn those saints around too by the way good gosh >> oh my gosh no kidding >> no mayor in the world's going to help that >> well she was in the box with with Mrs. This is Benson at the game. >> Oh wow. Okay, Daniel, thank you so much. We appreciate your input >> as always. Thanks, guys. And tell Aaron we're rooting for quick recovery. >> Thank you so much. Daniel Ursomber with the Pelican Institute. Mike and Mccardi, Lewis Avalone in for Aaron. 1017 FM710.com. Back to the show with Mike and McCarti on 1017 FM and 710 Keel [Music] Lewis Avalone in for Aaron Mike McCarti. They had the big no kings protest rally. They had them all across the country uh including here in Shreport. They were set up across the out in front of the Cat Parish Courthouse on Texas. >> Well, first of all, and Justice Kavanaaugh reportedly posted a screenshot of the New York Times article from 2024 showing that President Trump won the election. Um, >> an election, >> an election meaning he was not uh kinged or crowned or, you know, this is not a monarchy. This is in fact a representative democracy or excuse me a republic but nevertheless it's a representative government and it would have been more appropriately titled in terms of the protest of we hate Donald Trump. >> I mean just come on out and say it all. We hate the president. It's okay. I I I can respect that. We have a difference of opinion. You're not a terrible person. You hate the president. you do not like Donald Trump, you don't like what he's doing, you don't agree with his policies, just call it that instead of this charade of no kings. And and by the way, realize that the government is shut down for all intents and purposes strictly and solely and exclusively by Democrats. >> That's right. Now, if this were a monarchy, could the minority party shut down the government >> and hold it hostage? >> And and when the government finally does reopen, will the no kings crowd give credit to President excuse me, to King Trump for reopening the government? or or will they say, "No, our Democratic brethren in in Congress are responsible for opening the government." So, if your Democratic leaders in Congress are the ones responsible for opening up government, then it sounds like we've got a representative government already. So, what is what are we protesting here? >> Well, that was my next question. What I I don't see the logic here. Okay. Like you said, you don't like you don't like Donald Trump. I got I understand that he he's he's in some ways not likable. His personality can be abrasive. I understand that. But how do you correlate that into him trying to be a dictator and a king? Is it because he's trying to protect US citizens when the when ICE is trying to do their job and follow federal law? So in and he's and those cities like Chicago and like Los Angeles are fighting our own government. So he has to bring in troops. Well, if you watch the person on the street interviews, you know, reporters going out and asking folks and and just everyday folks on social media going out and asking the protesters, what are you protesting? And there's a litany of grievances. The the problem with that, >> if they can even come up with an answer, >> the problem is those grievances, if true, I totally understand where they're coming from, where the protester is coming from. The problem is those list of grievances are completely and factually inaccurate. And so they don't know what they don't know. And I'm not saying that in a condescending way. Uh but you know, you've got Robert Dairo out there calling Steven Miller, the you know, the deputy chief of staff to President Trump, calling him a Nazi, >> right? >> So that's the kind of ridiculousness that is circulating. >> And when we're going to take a quick break when we get back, our our own sheriff was at the No Kings rally locally. We'll talk to you about that. Micah McCarti, Lewis Avalon in for Aaron 1017fm 710key.com. Now, breaking news and trending talk with Mike and McCarti on 1017 FM and 710 GE. >> Well, social media, especially locally, ablaze with pictures of our sheriff taking pictures with the protesters at the No Kings Rally downtown Shreport over the weekend. And you you told me during the break you said, "Well, I've got some thoughts on that." Well, I I look, Sheriff White Horn, I'm sure he does a great job by and large, but he was there in uniform and I think a lot of folks saw him there as an endorsement of those protesters. >> Now, okay, let's be very frank because he is a Democrat. He's a registered Democrat, has been his entire life. It is more likely than not that he does sympathize with those who were protesting and their grievances uh against this president, but he was there in uniform. He did have deputies that were there. >> Mhm. >> And so for him, he's probably of the opinion, hey, I'm I'm doing my job. Well, I mean, what kind of of leader of the Cattle Parish Sheriff's Department would I be if I wasn't out alongside my deputies, especially at an event like this that could turn, you know, out of control or otherwise become incendiary. Um, there has been violence at these types of protests before. >> Sure. uh within the crowd and I I get that but at the same time it it does become a question of optics because >> right >> you know there's a lot of folks in the parish and Sheriff Whitehorn while he was running for election he he said he would be the sheriff of all the people in Cat Parish and so when the sheriff when the leader of the Cat Parish sheriff's office shows up. You know, it I'm I'm not surprised that a lot of folks are are riled up about that that he's at a no kings rally when obviously there were dozens of cattle parish sheriff's deputies that were certainly more than capable >> of maintaining the peace and of doing the job that needed to be done. What what was he doing there? uh and >> and posing for pictures with the protesters, which you know is going to be all over social media. >> Well, I mean, you know, that's probably hard for him to decline. Someone comes up, hey, sheriff, can I get a photo with you? I mean, I I I get that part. I I think the decision to be there in the first place may be something that I I wouldn't have done if I was sheriff, >> whichever side of the aisle. Uh simply because again, I I ran on a platform of being the sheriff for all of Kat Parish. >> And yet, you know, here it seems like I'm kind of joining >> Democrat. I am I am shouldertosh shoulder with these folks that uh obviously do not like and do not agree with President Trump. >> And look, they they're fully within their rights to protest the president. >> Oh, 100%. But I don't understand this whole kings thing. We we're running short on time. We got a a hard break here. I don't I don't understand this correlation of dictator. >> I think that's the marketing >> rhetoric of of Nazis and fascism which leads to actions like happened in Butler, Pennsylvania during the campaign leads to actions that happened on the golf course in Florida. And also there was a new possible sniper nest just discovered over the weekend. >> There's nothing possible about that. That was a sniper nest. Uh an attack on the president. >> We'll talk about that. Lewis Avalonian in for Aaron. Mike McCarti 1017 FM 710. Thank you. >> Back with on 1017 FM and 710 Keel. Lewis Abalone in for Aaron. Micah McCarti 1017 FM 710 Keel. I have said and and [Music] obviously since since Butler Pennsylvania during the campaign, what one millimeter could have made a difference in history. My biggest fear right now is the safety of our president. I don't I don't think and and as he racks up more success, Lewis, peace in the Middle East. And I say that I say that knowing full well that historically that is a tentative position. Peace in the Middle East. Hamas and Israel coming to terms. I mean, Hamas is already breaking those terms. They're already they're already on on shaky ground trying to follow that. But the fact that that President Trump did get our hostages home did get uh did get us to this point to where a ceasefire was even possible. Working on Russia now and and the Ukraine or Ukraine, sorry. the more success he he he racks up, the more worried I be I I become because look at what happened in the first term. The economy was booming, stock market was booming, things were looking great, and then co that didn't come out of the blue. That wasn't unplanned. I'm sorry, call me a conspiracist, but that's what I believe. And and when you look back at how President Trump has shaped this administration, I think you see the wisdom that addresses that concern. And the wisdom there is he chose some of the best and brightest and strongest conservatives. There's no question that there's any rhinos in that crowd. Obviously, Marco Rubio being one of them, uh JD Vance being another, and there's countless others. Of course, Speaker Mike Johnson, uh, of course, he wasn't chosen by President Trump, but he was elected by the House of Representatives. Yes. >> But he did not become speaker of the house without the support of President Trump. And the point I'm trying to make here is if someone believes that taking President Trump out, right, and if history has shown us anything, it's that anyone can get to anyone >> anywhere. Okay. But I will say this. If someone thinks that taking President Trump out is going to stop his agenda, they have another thing coming because the the Republican bench, >> yes, >> the MAGA bench is just too deep at this point for that to occur. >> Lewis Avalone in for Aaron Mikey Mccardi. Positive economic news for the state of Louisiana. Dan Daniel Urs Palmer joins us after the news top of the hour. 1017fm710key.com [Music] 17 FM 710 Keel Mike McCarti. Aaron out Lewis R. Avalone is in studio for Aaron and on the Jack Spring Electric News Maker hotline from the Pelican Institute, Daniel Urs Palmer joining us. Daniel, good morning. >> Hey, good morning guys. Great to be with you. >> Thank you. Great to have you with us. Uh you you story on the opening of Bies here in Louisiana. Of course, we know there's one coming in South Louisiana and one up here in North Louisiana in Rustin. And as exciting as that is for Rustin, Louisiana, and we know it's going to to bring we've seen what it's done over in Terrell, Texas, the the entire the entire area has just exploded economically. But I love what you said. It's not just about Rustin's economy, but it shows that Louisiana and the state economy is moving in the right direction. >> Yeah. You know, the the legislature and the governor have been hard at work trying to address some of those major issues that have long kept companies like BIES despite, as I'm sure you know, its its roots right here in Louisiana in Cahula Parish. Um, but uh >> a lot of people might not realize that. >> Yeah. I mean, Louisiana really should be the home of of Bies. Um, of course, Texas has claimed that mantle, but you know, we'll get our Beaver Nuggets nuggets soon and and maybe we'll uh we'll change that history. >> Yeah. The the founders, he says, uh his grandparents had a small town general store, which kind of was the blueprint for Bies in Kahula Parish. >> That's exactly right. Right in Catahula. And uh excuse me and and of course uh if you look at we compare ourselves to Texas all the time of course but you know if you look at income tax at zero in Texas um you know business climate growing uh they've addressed lawsuit abuse though they have more work to do there. Not to suggest Texas is perfect. In fact, if Louisiana got our our policies right, uh there's there's no reason we shouldn't be not only competitive with Texas, but frankly even more prosperous and full of opportunity than the state of Texas. >> Yeah. No, absolutely. Of course, last fall, uh Louisiana lawmakers made a change to the state tax policy, and in the end, lawmakers placed a flat 3% income tax on all households regardless of income. What are the chances that this legislature will do away with that 3% and bring the state income tax down to zero? >> Well, I I'm optimistic about it. Of course, what it's going to take is ensuring that they hear their constituents, your listeners, you, me, everybody else, that that is a high priority and something that they that we want. Um, but I can tell you talking with lawmakers, this is certainly something on their agenda. We've put forward at the Pelican Institute, a few different ideas about how you might get there. Uh, but at the end of the day, if we're going if we have any hope of being competitive with our neighboring states, with the South, with the rest of the world, phasing out that income tax has to be the highest priority on the list. >> Yeah. No, absolutely. And and Daniel, you say that that we, you know, the people need to let our our representatives know this is how we feel about the whole state income tax issue, but do they want it? You you say you have spoken with legislators about it. This is a priority. I mean, it's one thing for the people to say, "Yes, we want this." But do the legislators want it. Do they believe it that this is good policy? this is good for the future uh economic development of Louisiana. >> You know, I don't know that I'd say the entire legislature is there, but uh but I will tell you that um individuals from across the state, especially these more recently elected men and women uh the last couple of polls, there's a lot of energy toward big uh transformational changes like ending the income tax. I'll tell you the biggest thing that is this fear and we've tried to help quell this that you know somehow eliminating the income tax means we're going to have to slash government or >> you know make some kind of draconian cuts. The truth of the matter is if we had just slowed down the growth of spending, the growth not even cuts, uh, back in 2015 or 2016, we would have eliminated or become or come very darn close to it the income tax already today. So, what this requires moving forward is just to pull the reinss back to make sure government doesn't grow faster than the rest of the state. And if we can do that, we can eliminate this income tax. Our our suggestions show in 8 to 10 years without really any major changes. And if you wanted to to actually go in and doge the state, find deficiencies, you could do it faster than that. talking with Daniel Ers Bomber from the Pelican Institute. Daniel, and and I know you say slow the growth, but you you said that the Pelican Institute you had two or three options for the state to consider to move toward that zero uh zero income tax. Is there anything you can share with us on on your on your thoughts? >> Absolutely. Our our proposal uh >> because that money's got to come from someplace. Well, it does. However, consider that the state budget has grown by 80% over the last decade. >> Yes. >> Um, so the the big challenge here is not a revenue problem in terms of getting uh getting to that zero income tax. The challenge is a spending problem. And of course, it's complicated. And we, you know, some of those things uh were attempted to be addressed in uh in amendment two that of course failed uh this spring. and some of those will be back on the ballot next spring in April um for voters to take individual pieces of of what was in that amendment. There's more to do. You know, our our first you got to put a meaningful spending limit in place that actually says we cannot grow faster than inflation and population. So if the population is growing and there's inflation, obviously that means there are more taxpayers, right? ideally uh and uh I and we can sustain that. But otherwise uh really have a meaningful cap and then use the surplus collections of taxes over that cap to buy down to phase out that income tax rate over time. Um by the way, you can do this without uh sacrificing meaningful spending that needs to be done on roads and bridges to improve Louisiana's infrastructure. It's one of these things that sounds too good to be true, but you really get into the data and the math and it's really not that hard. It's absolutely doable. But it does take some discipline and restraint from the legislature to actually say we're not going to continue to just spend and spend and spend. >> Well, hopefully it'll be a little bit better with the Republicans being in charge. >> Well, you think so? Yeah, that's why I'm saying hopefully, >> right? >> You know, look, it's it this is a a bipartisan problem, whether it's here in Louisiana or >> uh you know, at the federal government. It is the incentive and structure of government to continue to grow and grow and grow >> because every representative has their own pet projects in their districts that they want funded. >> That's right. And every lobbyist they hear from that walks in the door, you know, it's funny. I'll walk in and and regularly when I talk to a lawmaker, they say, "Oh, thank goodness you're here. You're not asking me to spend any more money, >> right?" >> Uh, you know, this is uh we I consider myself, you know, somewhat of a a lobbyist for the people, right, for taxpayers. >> Absolutely. >> Um, >> you know, but but that's that's what they have to hear is listen, we know this is a state challenge. We've got to get the state more competitive, which means saying, you know, we're going to understand that that these these pork bell projects, pet projects, and uh you know, continuing to to just spend more of our taxpayer money isn't the pathway to get there. uh just like you and I and and the rest of to have a budget and tighten the belt sometimes at our in our household budget or small business budget. Uh the government needs to be doing the same uh and and more because they are stewards of our money. Um and and sometimes I think it's easy easy to forget that. >> Daniel Ers Palmer with the Pelican Institute. We got to take a quick break. Can you hold with us Daniel through the break? >> Sure I'd love to. >> We'll be right back. Mike and McCarti, Lewis Avalone in for Aaron 1017fm 710key.com. >> Get back to the show with Mike and McCarti on 1017 FM and 710 Keel. Daniel Ers Palmer with the Pelican Institute on the Jack Spring Electric Newsmaker hotline. Lewis Avalone in for Aaron Micah Mccardi. Daniel, we got some good news like at the end of last year out migration uh actually changed directions a little bit for the state. We didn't lose more people than we brought in. >> Yeah. Amazing. >> I know it it really is. I think our worst problem in not only in Louisiana or or in Shreport, but in Louisiana, our worst problem is our own self-perception. >> It it's it's we've been so used to being on the, you know, number 50 or number 49 in in education or income or there's but those those metrics are actually turning around. you know, they are and and it's such good news and and I I just hope it it shows the people, the lawmakers, everyone that, you know, when you start to move in the right direction, we've got a lot of work to do, but >> sure, >> uh just just heading the right direction changes everything. It changes the perception of potential investors and families who may want to move here, businesses who may want uh to move here or locate a new new facility, whether it's Meta or Bies or >> uh or ship builders down south. You know, it's um they're fix the drivers that make those decisions. Taxes, education, uh sort of continuity and stability of government can solve those things. we actually get on the list and turn things around. You I know you know this, the the last time we grew faster than the rest of the country was 1920. And uh you know there's there's just no question we ought to be the economic and opportunity powerhouse uh of the southeast between energy and timber, land, water, all all the natural resources, the rivers, uh railroads, all those things say Louisiana ought to be the nexus of opportunity in the country. and you know the the changes that we're starting to make, we're getting there. And and if we keep our foot on the gas pedal, you know, we're going to see our kids and grandkids come home and fewer of them leave in the first place and uh and and really create a Louisiana that that's the state should be a land of opportunity. >> Yeah. And initially, of course, when companies are looking to invest in Louisiana, initially they look at New Orleans. I mean that let's just be very frank. They because a lot of folks think of New Orleans first when they think of Louisiana and then of course they see the richness that is the rest of the state. But nevertheless, Helena Moreno is the new mayor of New Orleans. How do you feel that the new mayor of New Orleans is going to affect our economic development or the attractiveness of investment in Louisiana? uh because of her election. >> Yeah, you know, you're exactly right. New Orleans, for for better or for worse, is a a major driver of of a lot. >> It's a barometer of the state. It >> it is. It absolutely is. And bless my heart, I'm a resident of Orleans Parish. Um but, uh you know, I I think there is there's a fair amount of optimism. Um you know, New Orleans uh as a >> I mean, it couldn't be worse. that well that has been sort of my answer to everybody is gosh it's uh it's hard to imagine worse. Um you know I I think uh the mayor elect is is competent. She's putting together a good transition team. Look the the the building blocks are there and the road map is there. You got to continue to to keep get a handle on crime. You've got to fix the roads and make sure the street lights work and and handle drainage uh and and flooding measures. If you do those things, the rest of it all sort of falls in place. Not that there isn't work to do, but uh we need a mayor in New Orleans that focuses on the basics, that makes it a welcoming and friendly place for people to come to, which they they do by the millions, tens of millions. Um, and uh, you know, I'm I'm mildly optimistic. You know, the history of New Orleans is uh, messing things up if they have the opportunity. So, let's see if we can uh, reverse that legacy and and really make make the city a place to shine again. >> Do you think the new mayor will reverse direction in some instances or do you think it's just going to be a continuation of Latoya Canrell's administration? >> No, I I definitely think there will be some reversal in course. you know, Helena has been the the leading adversary of of Mayor Cantrell during her time on the the council. Um, you know, the challenge of course is uh and it's I think the same trap that that Latoya Cantrell fell into, which is the national progressive infrastructure is uh very persuasive and uh telling particularly mayors of of cities like New Orleans, you could be a star if you just embrace all these these progressive policies. and and frankly at a municipal level as we know obviously you know we we want someone to be as free market as possible but just doing the basics well the the management of municipal government can go a long way even even if they accept that siren's call of of of fame >> and we've got to turn those saints around too by the way good gosh >> oh my gosh no kidding >> no mayor in the world's going to help that >> well she was in the box with with Mrs. Benson at the game. >> Oh wow. Okay, Daniel, thank you so much. We appreciate your input >> as always. Thanks guys. And tell Aaron we're rooting for quick recovery. >> Thank you so much. Daniel Ursbomber with the Pelican Institute. Mike and Mccardi, Lewis Avalone in for Aaron. 1017 FM710 keel.com. >> More breaking news and trending talk with Mike and McCarti on 1017 FM and 710 Keel. [Music] Lewis R. Avalone in for Aaron. Micah Mccertie. I you brought up this story earlier this morning. Is this is this an example of another woke company trying to make a statement or are they just trying to cash in? >> I I think it's a marketing gimmick. But but it it it begs the question, right? And for those of you who may not have heard, uh, Maxwell House, you know, which is that classic American brand of coffee, >> good to the last drop. >> Absolutely. Well, now they've decided it's now Maxwell Apartment. Not Maxwell House, but Maxwell apartment because they say housing has become so unaffordable for so many Americans that house is no longer inclusive. Now, now I'll I'll give you that. I I think that some of the policies some many of the policies coming out of Washington DC and certainly in blue states, states that are that are led by Republican governors uh as well as our urban cities like New York City and Chicago and Los Angeles. Those woke policies, the woke ideology have created a condition where you either have the very rich or the very poor. Mhm. >> But you don't and and you basically have government government's boot on the neck of small business folks, >> right? >> And when that happens, Yeah. you you you drive out the middle class and all you've got left at that point are the very poor that are dependent on government in order to in order to be alive. And then you've got the very rich. That's certainly what has happened in New York City. It's what's happened in Chicago. and certainly all up and down the west coast of California, >> right? And and just you know what, give me my good community coffee. We have community coffee here. I'm not buying Maxwell House anyway. >> And you know, part of the reason >> and this and they did say, look, this is a temporary >> No, I get it. >> rebranding. It's it's just a it's it's just an attempt to cash in. But when you look at Democrat policies in these communities where housing is unaffordable, zoning restrictions, environmental reviews, inflated property taxes, rent controls, endless regulation, I mean, you can't, for example, you can't build a shed in Los Angeles without 14 permits and a sustainability study. But in in Texas and Florida and Tennessee, again, those are red states, people are still buying houses. People are still moving there in droves. Families are thriving. Builders are building. It's it's a very different situation. >> And look at in the last 30 seconds here before the break, Gavin Newsome, remember after the Palisades fires, Gavin Newsome made this big proclamation. We are going to simplify the rebuilding process. We're going to eliminate the needs for these permits and we're going to help these homeowners. Well, how long has it been? >> Oh, it >> How many of those homes have been rebuilt? >> No, it is absolutely outrageous. And I hope all of you will join me this Saturday for a protest uh of Maxwell Apartment. Bring back Maxwell House. >> What? What's the problem? Everyone else can protest. Why can't I? >> Oh, why? Might as well. Yeah. And And plus, it's a Craft Hind company. Don't get me started. Lewis Avalone in for Aaron Micah Mccardi. Find out fall weather coming, more rain. We'll talk with We'll talk with Richard Llewelling from the Weather Channel next. 1017 FM710.com. >> Back to the big stories of the day with Mike and McCarti on 1017 FM and 710 Keel. [Music] Weather Channel meteorologist Richard Llewelling. Richard, good morning. >> Good morning. How are you? >> Well, we're doing well. Lewis is in for Aaron. We finally are seeing a little bit of fall weather. >> About time, isn't it? >> It's about time. Now, I'm not complaining about the rain because we haven't had rain for weeks. We got we got a huge storm came in Saturday. >> Yeah. And we've got another one coming in tonight. In fact, we've got a system that's back out over parts of uh northern Colorado, working on up into parts of Nebraska and the Dakotas. And that system's going to come in later tonight. Will probably bring us a little bit of light shower activity coming in early tomorrow morning. Uh and then we're going to get another surge of cool air that will be coming as we move into the latter half of the week. And basically just going to kind of reinforce the nice fall weather that we'll see in the middle of latter half of the week. We'll see temperatures uh falling into the low 80s for highs and overnight lows going to be in the 50s. But this morning it's pretty chilly out there. We've got 50 here in right now. A lot of 40s showing up in some of the outlying areas this morning. So, you know, it's it's definitely a day to dig out the light jacket, but you know, we'll get a nice recovery today as that southerntherly winds out in advance of that next system going to help push those temperatures up into the 80s later today. >> So, you're saying there's no chance of winter precipitation this week. Uh despite the falling temperatures and the moisture moving in. >> Yeah. Uh don't dig out the snow boots just yet. Yeah, it's going to be uh it's going to be pretty warm here this week, especially during the day. Uh and uh tonight, you know, it's really not going to be as chilly as it's going to be this morning. You know, we you know, we got these day uh starting off the day in the 40s and 50s. You know, with the clouds advancing in tonight with this next system, lows are only expected to fall into the mid60s tonight and then we'll be in the 80s again tomorrow around 80 degrees before the temperatures uh start to fall off again uh on Wednesday morning if we'll go back down into the 40s again. So, you know, um this is kind of a, you know, what we would normally get in the fall. You know, this is kind of what we kind of would expect, >> but uh you know, nothing really, you know, screaming anything out of the ordinary there. There is better news in on the rainfront though. Looks like as we approach the weekend, uh we are going to see another good chance of showers and storms coming into the forecast as we head into Friday night and Saturday. Uh, and in fact, with the next system coming in, we may get an inch of rain out of this next system coming in. Uh, so, you know, Friday night into Saturday kind of looks to be a wash and maybe some lingering showers into Sunday. And, um, you know, isn't the Louisiana State Fair, something like that getting ready to get started here. >> Of course, >> of course. and some you know and uh I think it was Aaron that said that uh you know we kind of get that uh chance for storms around the fair time and you know I think that's what's going to happen again. We are seeing the indications that we may see some decent storms as we get ready to go into the fair. That's what it it I don't know. Is it just the time of year that they're they're kind of jinxed with because it gets they start October 30th is when the fair opens. >> Is it just this time of year? Because it does. It seems like it rains for a week every every year during the fair. >> Yeah. And you know, usually this has a lot to do with the fact that, you know, much of our part of the East Texas and northern Louisiana, Arkansas, you know, we're going into that seasonal change where we're starting to see, you know, some of these fronts that are dropping down out of Canada get further down the is starting to play an influence on our weather. So, you know, it's kind of one of those heels that we start to feel the influences of, you know, stuff that's further north is dropping southward and we kind of get into that battle zone situation where we're dealing with showers and storms and that's and that and and that is 100% true. This is normally the time of the year when we start to see those systems start to come in and, you know, that will bring us those better opportunities for rain. Unfortunately, it just so happens to coincide with fair. Halloween falls on a Friday night this year, which just kind of works out perfectly. And it looks like we're in for some beautiful Halloween weather, even dipping into the 40s. >> Yeah, it's definitely looking like it's going to be, you know, the look and feel of Halloween in the architect for sure. You know, it looks like we may see some highs as we get on out in the longer range. We're seeing some indications that we may see some daytime highs in the 60s. Overnight lows uh falling into the 40s. So, you know, this that that's perfect trick-or-treating weather, and I think that that's what we're going to see here as we get on out toward the end of next week. >> Somebody said if there's a lot of acorns on the ground, which we have right now, it's going to be a really cold winter. Are we looking at a really cold winter for Shreport? indications are we're not um because we're going into a leninia right now and that usually means that you know areas you know across Texas through the Gulf Coast and stretching on up into parts of the southeast are going to be looking at a warmer than average winter and that's what Noah has indicated in their you know winter forecast that came out last week that temperatures in the December January February time frame are actually going to be warmer than average for us here in architects. It looks like the battle zone though for winter weather is going to be the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley into the Northeast, you know, where the better opportunities for winter weather is going to be. But, you know, there's always that chance, you know, that we get a system that works, you know, down toward the Aritects, you know, that brings us those chances for some winter weather concerns. And I don't think this winter is going to be any different than any other winter. So, best advice, stay tuned. We'll be playing we'll be watching the trends of the forecast as we get further along. If you don't like the weather in Louisiana, just hang on. >> That's exactly right. >> Richard Llewelling with the weather channel. Thank you so much, Richard. Have a good morning. >> Thank you. You too. >> Daniel Er Palmer going to be joining us after the news. Top of the hour. Lewis R. Avalone in for Aaron. 1017 FM 710 Kio. Mike and Mccardi. >> Mike and Mccarti on 1017 FM and 710 Keel. >> Oh my gosh. The no kings no kings rally is a no kings protest. I don't know. By the way, congratulations. They win. We don't have a king. So, >> well, from looking at lots of photos across the country, it looks like a Marty Gro parade. >> Why do they have to dress up like like dinosaurs and and witches? And I I don't I just don't get it. I just I if you look at if you look at where we are as a country today after nine months of Donald Trump as opposed to after four years of Biden, could you imagine Lewis Lewis Avalonian for Aaron? Could you imagine President Harris? >> Oh, let's let's please we let's not start the week off that way. And I know there's some Harris folks out there listening right now, but look, you you got to admit, I mean, from a global perspective, >> right? >> There is more peace in the world today. And if you think if you think that Vice President Kla Harris would have been able to accomplish the same, then I guess for you it's no different. But I think for most Americans, they realize that but for many of the positions that President Trump took, especially with respect to tariffs and >> what arguably was a courageous and gutsy move >> uh to take out to take out Iran, for example. >> Well, yeah. I mean, all of these things together brought about the necessary pressure to get the Middle East, all these countries in the Middle East on board and this peace agreement uh in place. Now, I know a lot of folks say, "Well, Democrats could have done that as well." Well, and and going back to the tariffs, Lewis, it proved all of the so-called experts wrong. Even Jerome Powell said, "Well, okay, the economy is doing better than we than we were expecting and he's finally starting to lower rates, but President they said if Donald Trump's reelected, he's going to start World War II." Well, they've been saying that since 2015, that he didn't have the temperament, that he would fly off the handle, that he is, you know, this megalomaniac, that egoomaniac. >> And he's negotiated what, nine peace deals now across all across the world. >> Yeah. >> Proving the experts wrong. But these these no kings you brought up, there was a post by uh Ketto. >> Yeah. Let me ask you, let me ask you this. A cattle parish sheriff's deputy allegedly made a post uh about the no kings rally and it was a complimentary post about the grievances uh that were being aired at this No Kings rally. >> And in that post, he refers to the president as an orange clown. right >> now. Do you think it's appropriate for a law enforcement officer to refer to the president of the United States as an orange clown? I mean, that's his first amend. This is this sheriff's deputies cattle parish sheriff's deputies first amendment right. But is it appropriate? >> Is it appropriate? No, of course not. I Is it legal? Sure. Will he face repercussions? I don't think so. >> I think it I think that that would depend on the position of And now if the previous sheriff was still in office, >> I think so. >> Okay. But first responders, medical professionals, of course, you know, they they run into a burning building. They're not checking someone's, you know, political party. >> Right. Right. But at the same time, it just there's something a little off-putting by that. >> I agree. I agree. And and yeah, and that's that's on on social media. You can you can see that post, like you say, allegedly by a Kado Parish Sheriff's deputy, disparaging the right wing basically. So, is it appropriate? Will he face repercussions? I don't think so. So yeah, good question. >> Might end up suing the Cat Parish Sheriff's Department if he does, if he was censured, so to speak, >> with respect to, you know, making political posts because law enforcement, >> they don't check their First Amendment right at the door. I mean, they certainly have a right to their >> Well, but there are some different standards for people in public office like that. I think we got it. We got it. We're up against the clock. Lewis, thank you. >> Pleasure morning. >> You bet. >> Thank you so much. Micah McCarti, Lewis Avalone in for Aaron 1017 FM710key.com.

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